NCAA

Big Ten, Pac 10 Will Need New Names After This

Well, kiss the Big 12 goodbye.  The conference that seemed to be the only legitimate contender to the SEC as of late may now be crumbling.  Time to take a look at my perspective on conference re-alignment!  Here are my predictions on who goes where.  Note that the divisions were set by my rough guesstimates of how it would work out, not how the divisions actually would be lined up.  Asterisks are known for sure, according to reports.

Big Ten Big Ten Pac 10 Pac 10
West Div East Div North Div South Div
Illionois Rutgers 1 Washington Texas
Iowa Penn State 2 Washington State Texas Tech
Kansas Ohio State 3 Oregon State Texas A&M
Kansas State Michigan 4 Oregon Baylor
Minnesota Michigan State 5 Colorado* Arizona State
Missouri Northwestern 6 UC Berkeley Arizona
Nebraska* Purdue 7 Stanford UCLA
Iowa State Indiana 8 Oklahoma USC
Wisconsin 9 Oklahoma State

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Marietta Football Schedule Out

We’re still a few months away from football season, but it’s nice to take a look at the road ahead for the Pioneers.  Seniors will be disappointed to see only four home games at Don Drumm.

You can view the full schedule with times over at the Marietta College Athletics site.

Marietta College will start the 2010 season with a trip to Thiel College September 4th.  September 11th will be Sternwheeler weekend, so no football.

Moving up to September 18th is the Muskingum University rivalry game, which will be both the Shrine Game and the River City Bowl.

The Pioneers then go on the road, with games against John Carroll University on September 25th and Baldwin-Wallace College on October 2nd.  There’s a chance that both those games could be televised on Sports Time Ohio in Northeast Ohio (if their television schedule is like last year).

On October 9th, Marietta will be home, but the students will be going home (Fall Break weekend).  Needed fan support may not be available as MC plays the newly-minted Mount Union University.  The Purple Raiders will more than likely be on their way to another trip to the D3 Championship game (hopefully with less than 36 inches of snow this time).

MC begins another two week road swing with games at Wilmington College of Ohio on October 16th, and Heidelberg University on October 23rd.

“Treat Yourself to Homecoming” in 2010 with another match-up against Ohio Northern University on October 30th.  I’ll call it now… students will be tired of drawing polar bears after two straight years of this.  The Pioneers will have their last home game November 6th against the Otterbein University Cardinals.

To finish the season, Marietta will travel to the outside of Columbus to meet the Capital Crusaders, who will probably be fighting for a spot in the D3 playoffs.

Be the first to comment - What do you think?  Posted by Patrick_H - June 7, 2010 at 6:52 pm

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Pio’s rebound well, but come up two wins short of Wisconsin

First off, apologies to those who religiously follow borderwarsports.com. This article should’ve been written as soon as the games went final; however I had to take a two hour trek back east to Pittsburgh. It had been awhile since I’ve been home and had to get re-Yinzer-gized.

After Marietta lost a heartbreaking opening round NCAA Mideast regional game to Thomas More, they had to win out to make it to Wisconsin for the DIII College World Series. Head coach Brian Brewer’s game plan for the next day was “win”…and did they ever. The ‘Etta Express got things rolling again by shutting out and sending home #2 seed Wooster, winning 6-0. The win meant that Marietta would have to play later that day. Pitching was wearing thin. Austin Blaski threw against Thomas More and Brian Gasser against Wooster. Mark Williams found success coming from the bullpen and Brewer wasn’t going to remove him from that role, so instead he turned to Casey Levens. Levens and a trio of freshman limited Washington and Jefferson to just five hits and one run while the Pio’s bats came to life. Britt Meador, John Snyder, Levens, and Tim Saunders all had multi-hit games, while Jordan Grilliot score three times. When it was all said and done, Marietta sent W&J back down I-77 with an 11-1 beat down.

Talk about rebounding. Shaq would’ve been impressed. Young Shaq that is. Orlando and L.A. Shaq. Not so much Phoenix and Cleveland Shaq.

Marietta got a chance at redemption against Thomas More the following day, and while the Saints had the dubious distinction of beating the host team on the first day, it was the Pioneers who would play bad party hosts and send Thomas More packing. Give Brewer a ton of credit. He pulled all of the right strings with the pitching situation. In this game, he threw closer and spot starter Kyle Lindquist five innings and Even Brockmeier went the final four. Meador, Aaron Hopper, and Grilliot combined for nine of the Pio’s 16 hits as their run total equaled that of their hits. 16-4 final score. Next opponent Penn St. Behrend.

These two teams squared off in the final week of the regular season and Marietta won handily. This game would be a little closer .The Pioneers were blanked for 26 outs. With two outs in the 9th, Brewer sent Chris Beatty, mired in a horrible slump to the plate. With the season riding on the senior’s broad shoulders, he delivered. A two out double to keep the season alive. Brockmeier would pinch run and score on a Snyder seeing-eye single and the game went to extras tied at one. Then a little small ball and some Schaly Stadium magic propelled the Pio’s to victory. Steady Kirby Becker started out the inning with a single and advanced to second on a Jordan Thompson sac bunt. Starter Ryan Zamiskie mishandled the ball and Thompson was safe. Next up, Dan Jones. He too laid down a sac bunt and Zamiskie threw the ball away allowing Becker to score and the Pio’s to face off against Heidelberg for the right to go to the World Series.

It was an OAC championship rematch. The Pio’s would try to rewrite recent history and take down the powerful Student Princes. Brewer went back to his ace, Blaski, on short rest. Clearly fatigue had taken a toll on not only him, but the entire squad. They fell to Heidelberg 6-2, thus ending an impressive postseason run.

After Marietta lost their first game, they went on to play five games in three days, sending four teams packing all to fall to the #2 team in DIII baseball.

After the loss, heads were hung and I’m sure tears were shed, especially for the seniors who would no longer dawn the Marietta College pinstripes. But this three day tournament in little Marietta, Ohio proved to all fans that this town is truly a baseball town. And as for the members of the 2010 ‘Etta Express, the performance that they put on for their hometown fans was spectacular. The team might not have reached their ultimate goal, but that was quite possibly the best three days of baseball Marietta has ever seen.

As the shores of the Ohio and Muskingum now peacefully rest for the summer, everyone can eagerly anticipate the return of this squad next year as they hope to make another magical run. Although this one wasn’t too bad either.

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Border War: Mideast Tournament Day 1

Ah, the 2010 NCAA Division III Mideast Regional is upon us, which means four games are being played down in Marietta today.  The bloggers make their picks and try to catch up with Chris, who is a perfect five for five so far (the OSU/Pitt game was rained out).  Head over to the Marietta College Athletic’s site for all the updates scores and stats from the tournament all week.

NCAA DIV III BASEBALL – Washington and Jefferson VS. Adrian

Chris – Washington and Jefferson (7-5)

I watched the Presidents play when they came to Don Schaly and they were impressive. They got down early and battled back with a potent offense. Look for them to use that to earn the victory.

C.J. – Adrian (N/A)

Mickey – Adrian (N/A)

Mike – Washington and Jefferson (6-4)

Patrick – Adrian (5-3)

the 4/5 Seed game proves difficult to pick.  W & J is a strong team, as they showed against Marietta earlier this year.  However, Adrian has the experience of making deep tournament runs, so look for them to pull out a tough game and move on to face Heidelberg.

NCAA DIV III BASEBALL – Marietta VS. Thomas More

Chris – Marietta (10-4)

Thomas More does have four wins against teams in this Mideast region. The problem? None are against the Pioneers. Oh yeah, and I’m a homer.

C.J. – Marietta (N/A)

Mickey – Marietta (N/A)

Mike – Marietta (10-5)

The Etta Express has to much fire power offensively and they’re playing at home

Patrick – Marietta (12-3)

Fueled by a home crowd, Marietta takes out the #6 seed big time.  And yea, like Chris, it’s a homer pick.  For at least the first game.

NCAA DIV III BASEBALL – Wooster VS. Penn State – Behrend

Chris – Wooster (4-2)

PSUB played the Scotts tight in two meetings during the regular season, but I see Wooster going as far as they did last year, if not further.

C.J. – Woosta (N/A)

Editor’s Note:  I had to leave the spelling like that.  Only a Bostonian would type it that way /ph

Mickey – Wooster (N/A)

Mike – Wooster (9-3)

We just crushed Behrend and Wooster is spectacular

Patrick – Wooster (15-2)

It’s Wooster.  Against who?  Who are these guys?  Chris (resident Penn State fan), who are these guys?

NCAA DIV III BASEBALL – Heidelberg VS. Winner of W & J VS. Adrian

Chris – Heidelberg (8-0)

With OAC Player of the year Jack Rafeld, it’s hard to see the Students Princes losing in the first game. Seriously though Jake, a .457 batting average? Wow.

C.J. – Heidelberg (N/A)

Mickey – Heidelberg (N/A)

Mike – Heidelberg (11-7)

The standings hold chalk through day one…the top 3 teams are far superior

Patrick – Heidelberg (6-4)

The OAC champs and #1 Mideast seed gets a warmed up Adrian in the night cap.  This game should be a fun one to watch, because as we know from last year or he year before, Adrian fights hard in the tournament.

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Border War: Habs Rebound? Indians over Rays?

NHL: Philadelphia Flyers VS Montreal Canadiens

Chris – Philadelphia Flyers (3-1)

I think the Flyers need to take a 2-0 lead because it will be tough to win a game when they go up to Montreal.

C.J. – Philadelphia Flyers (4-3)

For once the home team won a game in the Stanley Cup playoffs. This series I’m not paying full attention to just because I’m more interested in the Blackhawks series (I love their jerseys). But nothing in this series so far made sense. Halak been the best goaltender in the playoffs got destroyed in game one and the Flyers being the home team actually won. Right now it’s hard to go against the Flyers, ever since Simon Gagne came back this team has been something else with five straight. I don’t think the Flyers are going to stop. I say game 2 go to the home team.

Mickey – Montreal Canadiens (5-2)

Montreal is my Lord Stanley favorites. Expect Halak to come back stronger than ever and him and the boys take that loss to heart. Cammaleri needs to have a big game as well.

Mike – Montreal Canadiens (3-1)

Montreal can’t fall behind 2-0 in the series

Patrick – Philadelphia Flyers (4-2)

This series is looking to be the opposite of the rest of the NHL.  Look for the home team to win again, and force the Habs to “Protect Their House” at the Bell Centre to at least force things back to Philly and try to steal an away victory.

MLB: Cleveland Indians VS Tampa Bay Rays

Chris – Tampa Bay Rays (6-3)

C.J. – Tampa Bay Rays (8-1)

Cleveland will be forced to try there luck against the Tampa Bay Rays. I almost want to pick the Indians because of the reverse lock theory but as much as a Redsox fan that I am I’m actually pulling for the Rays. As long as the Yankees don’t win the division or World Series I’m O.K with the Rays. Look for Pena, Crawford, and Barlett to tear up the Indians like they’ve been doing this year. I’m thinking all of them will be all stars again.

Mickey – Tampa Bay Rays (6-4)

No way Cleveland takes down the Rays. Just not happening

Mike – Tampa Bay Rays (5-3)

Until the Indians prove they can beat the first place Rays, Tampa Bay will win

Patrick – Tampa Bay Rays (6-3)

The artists formally known as the Devil Rays will buck their trend of losing to the Indians.  The Tribe is going to have to shake up their line-up now that the dazzling Cabrera sits with a broken forearm for 4-6 weeks (depends on whether surgery is needed or not).  While the Rays normally cannot buy a win against the Indians, they will win today.

NCAA DI Baseball – Ohio State Buckeyes VS Pittsburgh Panthers

Chris – Ohio State Buckeyes (8-3)

Pitt is ranked and I want to say for like the first time ever in their history. Too bad that doesn’t help them in the scoring category.

C.J. – Pittsburgh Panthers (14-6)

In division one college baseball I give the edge to Pittsburgh. They are ranked 33rd in division one and I don’t see how they will lose in this battle against OSU. Let’s just say I got a feeling on this one.

Mickey – Ohio State University (8-0)

Pitt has a baseball team? Point proven.

Mike – Ohio State University (6-4)

As much as I would like to say Pitt will win, I must go with O-H

Patrick – Pittsburgh Panthers (10-5)

Panthers are just on the outside of some national polls, and play a struggling Ohio State.  They’re just trying to keep above .500 in the Big 10.  Look for the  Panthers to pounce early.

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Heidelberg, Wooster, Marietta In; John Carroll out

The Division Three Regional Tournament selections are out, and the three teams we always figured would be there are there.  But John Carroll, who had been projected by D3baseball.com to make the tournament (although be region-shifted to the New York region due to a rule that prevents three teams from the same conference in the same region), will not be playing in the Regional round.  Poor performances against Marietta and Muskingum in the OAC Tournament may have sealed their fate.

Heidelberg University grabs the #1 seed in the Mideast Region’s double-elimination, seven-team tournament.  The College of Wooster is the #2 seed, and Marietta College the #3 seed.  Here is the complete list of teams that will be traveling to Marietta:

Mideast Regional

1. Heidelberg (37-6)
2. Wooster (34-7)
3. Marietta (32-11)
4. Washington and Jefferson (32-10)
5. Adrian (29-11)
6. Thomas More (31-14)
7. Penn State-Behrend (29-14)

According to the Marietta College Mideast Regional website, Wednesday will be the first day of tournament play.  Washington and Jefferson and Adriean will kick things off at 9:30 AM, followed by Marietta College taking on Thomas More at 1 PM.  Game three will feature Wooster against Penn State – Behrend at 4:30 PM.  The night cap will feature #1 seed Heidelberg against the winner of the Washington and Jefferson/Adrian game, and is scheduled to start at 8 PM.

Stay tuned to Border War Sports and the Marietta Mideast Region Tournament page for all the latest scores and reports.

Be the first to comment - What do you think?  Posted by Patrick_H - May 17, 2010 at 11:05 am

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BORDER WAR – Bruins/Flyers, MLB, Pioneers/Princes

Well, the Cavs fans went for the Homer win…and lost big time.  Mike picked the Celtics, and ties things up with C.J. and Mickey at three points apiece.  For Friday’s edition of Border War, we asked the bloggers who would win game seven of the Bruins/Flyers series, Reds/Cardinals, Pirates/Cubs, and Marietta Pioneers/Heidelberg Princes.  Who will take the lead?  Plenty of chances today.

Pioneers or Princes? Score? Why?
Chris Heidelberg 7-6 The Pios haven’t won the OAC tourney since 2002. They have really struggled playing in Tiffin as well. I don’t think Chris Beatty and the offense will be able to pull this one off.
C.J. Marietta 9-8
With Marietta facing off against Heidelberg this caps off two of the best teams in the OAC facing so early. Very shocked and seems unfair to have them play against each other in round 2. Going against better judgement I think the Pioneers will pull it out. I have to think with the weapons that Marietta has that Brewer knows what to do in situations and put the right pitcher in the right situation.
Mickey Heidelberg 5-1 Beatty and Meador exploded today, but two days in a row, especially against the 3rd ranked team in the nation is a tough call. Heidelberg prevails, but won’t derail Marietta’s bid to the big show.
Mike Marietta 9-7 The Pioneers get a bye to the championship game. Their offense is clicking and dispite the beatdown the Student Princes put on Muskingum, it was Muskingum. Either Big Willy or Gasser will throw and they have a fresh bullpen with Lindquist and Eschbaugh waiting in case of trouble
Patrick Marietta 7-4 No high scoring affair here.  Heidelberg narrowly beat Pioneers twice in thee regular season.  Look for a Pioneer victory thanks to consistent sluggers and pitchers.
Bruins or Flyers? Score? Why?
Chris Philadelphia 3-2 To even make it to game seven is crazy for the Flyers. However for some reason, or maybe it is just me wanting to punch Dan Carcillo in the face, I don’t see them winning. Regardless of the outcome, coach Peter Laviolette deserves so much praise for his work. Remember how bad the Flyers were playing before he took over?
C.J. Philadelphia 4-0 It’s sad with the Boston Bruins playing for there playoff lives after being up 3-0 in a series. Something in sports history where Boston holds near and dear to them with the Red Sox in ’04. However it looks like Boston will be on the bad side of this historic run by the Flyers. Losing David Krejci was more of a loss than people really thought. He created so much offense for this team and its really what is missing in this game. Flyers sadly will take game seven unless a Bruin creates offense. Tuuka Rask can’t stop everything.
Mickey Philadelphia 4-2 Why? Because screw you Boston, that’s why. The new Evil Empire (the entire city of Boston) gets thrashed by Philly.
Mike Philadelphia 4-2 Flyers have too much momentum. Gagne goes off in the win.
Patrick Philadelphia 3-0 I swear I’m not just picking Philly because everybody else is.  Momentum is huge in the NHL (see Canadiens).  Flyers come back and make it a 7/8 seed Eastern Finals.
Reds or Cardinals? Score? Why?
Chris Cincinnati 4-2 Even before their sweep of the Pirates, the Reds pitching has been solid. Look for another quality start from Harang.
C.J. Cincinnati 6-2 With the Reds facing off against the Cardinals, I feel that the Reds will win. The Reds lately has had extremely well starting pitching. In the last 11 decisions given to the starters of the Reds has been 9-2. That’s incredible and to have these young promising pitchers pitch that well is great to have.
Mickey St. Louis 7-0 The Reds? Really? Yeah, no. Pujols smash.
Mike St. Louis 6-3 The Reds are playing well right now, but they just swept the Pirates. Dont get too excited Cincy fans…now if they take it to the Cards, thats a different story.
Patrick Cincinnati 5-4 Cinci doesn’t streak too often, so when they do, teams should watch.
Pirates or Cubs? Score? Why?
Chris Pittsburgh 1-0 This might be asking a little much from the Pirates lineup for one run, but they should fare well against a struggling Cubs team and former Bucco pitcher Tom Gorzelanny.
C.J. Chicago 5-1 Pirates playing against the Cubs seems not even worth watching. Two of the worst teams are duking it out. I give slight edge to the Cubs just because they have better players with Darek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, and Carlos Marmol.
Mickey Pittsburgh 4-3 My cousin, Kevin Hart, pitched for the Cubs until being traded to the Pirates last season. After that trade? Meteoric decline for Chicago. Enjoy those lefties, Pinella….the only way the Cubbies are going is down.
Mike Pittsburgh 5-2 The Cubs are the one team the Pirates have played well against this year. Brian Burres is throwin the ball well for the Buccos. They snap a 4 game losing streak with this win.
Patrick Cubs 3-0 Look for Chicago to keep the Pirates misery-train going.

Be the first to comment - What do you think?  Posted by Patrick_H - May 14, 2010 at 9:47 am

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All Aboard The ‘Etta Express – First Stop, Tiffin

The Pioneers begin their journey through the Division Three playoffs today at 4 PM (listen live at WMOA’s website) with a game against John Carroll University.

The ‘Etta Express comes into the OAC Tournament ranked #17 in the country, and #2 in the Mideast region.  From everything I’m reading, the conference tournament is just a warn-up for the real show down at Don Schaly Stadium (site of the 2010 Mideast Regional Tournament).  Seven teams are expected to make the regional, including three of the four OAC Tournament teams (sorry Muskingum), and four Top 25 teams.  I think it’s safe to say that Marietta will be home to the “Region of Death.”  But that analysis comes next week.

John Carroll University finished the regular season 25 and 14, 12 and 6 in the OAC.  Their main weapon is Brian Benander, who is hitting .437 for the year with a .667 slugging percentage.  The man can also take a hit, as he was nailed by pitchers 24 times.  John Moonan is probably who we’ll see pitching for the Blue Streaks, with an ERA of 4.22 and a 4-1 record.  He pitched in the JCU win over Marietta, and had five innings pitched, with five hits and one run.  Chris Eggleton is the other possibility, and he finished the season 3-1 with a 7.9 ERA.  He pitched five innings, with five hits and three runs.

The Pioneers batting battalion features four batters hitting over .400 for the season, and nearly an entire batting order over .350 (Casey Levens is hitting a comparatively low .294).  And they have the pitching to match, with three pitchers at 15 appearances each with an average ERA of around 4.  We’ll probably see Austin Blaski tonight, who has an 8-3 record with a 3.06 ERA over the course of the regular season.  However, when he faced JCU earlier this season, he only made it 2.2 innings with seven hits and eight runs (five earned).  That was Blaski’s last loss of the season.

There is a good chance that the Pioneers could be playing this game later tonight or tomorrow morning, as severe weather moves into the region.  Right now, the weather is great (according to Heidelberg’s radio station), but conditions are expected to deteriorate later in the night.  We’ll cross our fingers and hope they get the game in today, so the Pioneers and Blue Streaks don’t have to play two games, or even three possibly, in one day.

Look for the Pioneers to take care of business today and face #1 seed Heidelberg tomorrow afternoon.

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BORDER WAR – Thursday the 13th

After one day, Mike and Chris are left wondering what happened to their beloved hockey team, and how to get out of the hole they are now in.  Can they tie things up in this week’s Border War?  Three chances today, as we pick the Cavs/Celtics, Indians/Royals, and Marietta College Pioneers / John Carroll University Blue Streaks in the second game of the OAC Tournament.

Pios or JCU? Score? Why?
Chris N/A N/A N/A
C.J. Marietta 8-3 Marietta’s offense averages about 8 and a half runs a game which is very hard for there pitching to mess up. The play of Becker, Saunders, and Beatty are very hard to cool off. Plus this Marietta team has been ranked, an early round exit doesn’t seem possible to me, but that’s a bit bias.
Mickey Marietta 9-2 If the bats of Meador (.435 BA) and Beatty (12 HRs) come alive, John Carroll will be hard pressed to respond. 4/28 split between the teams shows it could be a close call, but #11 MC will pull through
Mike Marietta 8-3 Either Williams or Blaski will head to the bump, both with great stuff. The fact that MC has 5 batters hitting over .400 is reason enough. #2 seed will advance.
Patrick Marietta 5-3 Wet and cold conditions in Tiffin will make for an interesting game.  Marietta split the season, but is riding a lot of momentum coming into the OAC Tournament.  Both teams are expected to make the Mideast Tournament, so could be a glimpse into the future.
Cavs or Celtics? Score? Why?
Chris N/A N/A N/A
C.J. Cleveland 107-102 LeBron still has one more great game in him. He won’t let this end in Boston if he wants to keep his status as one of the greatest players playing now. Also throughout this year the Celtics did horrible at home this year. This isn’t the same team as the ’07 team. However I can still see them winning the series. This series has shown that the road teams have done better, so why stop thinking about that now. By the way I also think LeBron will have 25 points by halftime, he looks angry.
Mickey Cleveland 102-90 LeBron takes the media attention to heart and comes out swinging. Expect  big desperation games from Shaq, Z, and Antawn, who realize this could be it for them.
Mike Boston 101-95 LeBron plays his final game for the Cavs. Boston flies to high after the tuesday night beatdown.
Patrick Cleveland 110-90 I have to hope the LeBron and the rest of the Cavs get things in gear.  Every win this series has been by a large margin, minus one exception.  Look for a big night from The King Without a Ring, who found motivation in the huge home loss.
Indians or Royals? Score? Why?
Chris N/A N/A N/A
C.J. Kansas City 4-2
Indians are looking to sweep, but I don’t see it happening. You have two bad teams playing each other so usually both teams can pull out wins.
Mickey Kansas City 3-0 Sorry, Wahoos, but Greinke needs his first win of the season. 0-4 with a 2.50 ERA shows what a nasty pitcher he can be, but what an albatross the rest of his team is. Still, not as bad as the Tribe.
Mike Kansas City 4-2 I want to pick the Indians, but I can’t see Greinke going 0-5.
Patrick Cleveland 3-1 Greinke faces a streaking, sweeping Tribe.  Momentum may be in Cleveland’s favor, at least in this sport.  Don’t look for Greinke’s first win against the Indians.

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